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RWL227 7 Figure Marketing Founder Shares How To Thrive in Remote Work w/ Neil Ateem

From the Caribbean to Kuala Lumpur and beyond, Neil Ateem’s journey from working in Trinidad and Tobago’s tech and oil sectors to becoming a globe-trotting entrepreneur is extraordinary. He’s a Co-Founder Of Multiplier and shares the ins and outs of transitioning to remote work, overcoming hurdles in the Caribbean, and his pivotal role at Mindvalley in Kuala Lumpur.

Neil’s passion for marketing and leadership comes alive as he lets us in on the best advice he ever received: the “ready, fire, aim” approach, which focuses on taking action and building momentum rather than getting bogged down in endless planning. This actionable mindset has been instrumental in his success and could be the game-changer you need.

Balancing a remote lifestyle with professional dedication is no small feat, and Neil offers tips on staying organized and productive. Learn how to create a structured routine, embrace time blocking, and maintain accountability while enjoying the perks of remote work. 

You’ll also discover how Neil builds a strong company culture by hiring passionate, high-performing team members and why maintaining a balance between work and personal life is crucial. 

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Journey of a Remote Worker

Speaker 1
0:00

Today's

location

independent

founder
,

is

Neil

Ateem
.

He's

co-founder

of

Multiplayer
,

a

marketing

agency

that

specializes

in

helping

companies

achieve

revenue

growth
.

They've

generated

300

million

plus

in

revenue

for

renowned

brands

like

Mindvalley
,

catcher

Group
,

jordan

Peterson
,

coachingcom

and

many

others
.

Before

starting

Multiplier
,

neil

was

head

of

subscription

at

Mindvalley
,

where

he

played

a

pivotal

role

in

building

their

subscription

product
,

scaling

it

from

zero

to

an

impressive

20

million

in

earnings

in

the

first

year
.

With

more

than

10

years

of

marketing

experience

behind

him
,

encompassing

product

launches
,

marketing

strategies
,

subscription

models

and

digital

product

expertise
,

neil

is

well-versed

in

a

range

of

industries
,

including

fintech
,

real

estate

tech
,

saas

and

online

education
.

So
,

neil
,

you're

more

than

welcome

and

thank

you

for

joining

me
.

Hi
,

alex
.

Speaker 2
0:58

First

of

all
,

thank

you

for

having

me

on

so

a

little

bit

about

myself
.

I

guess

it's

in

the

context

of

remote

work

and

in

this

field
,

right
?

So

I

actually

didn't

start

out

as

a

remote

worker
.

I'm

actually

from

the

Caribbean

and

I

have

a

background

in

tech

and

oil

and

gas
.

So

I

did

spend

a

long

time

in

the

corporate

world
.

For

example
,

when

I

did

live

in

the

Caribbean

Trinidad

and

Tobago

specifically

I

worked

for

five

years

in

the

oil

and

gas

field
,

in

tech

and

IT
,

and

my

background

was

actually

computer

science
.

Speaker 2
1:34

And

after

then

I

was

looking

for

opportunities

in

the

marketing

space

because

I

had

a

deep

interest

in

marketing
.

I

did

study

business

before

in

high

school
,

but

I

ended

up

jumping

into

tech

when

I

did

my

degree

into

computer

science

specifically

and

web

programming
.

And
,

yeah
,

the

marketing

field

just

drove

me

after

that
.

And

then

what

happened

was

that

I

started

looking

for

jobs

in

the

marketing

space
.

I

had

an

and

that

I

had

at

the

same

time

in

parallel

with

my

corporate

job
,

and

then

from

there

it

just

naturally

progressed
,

with

me

leaving

home
,

moving

to

Asia
,

moving

to

Kuala

Lumpur
,

taking

up

a

job

there

with

a

huge

company

called

Mind

Valley

Some

of

you

may

know

it
.

Speaker 2
2:20

But

after

this

is

when

I

made

the

jump

into

actually

becoming

somewhat

of

a

remote

worker
,

a

nomad
,

whatever

it's

called

now
.

But

to

me

it's

just

about

getting

that

freedom

and

starting

to

build

my

own

thing

and

work

for

myself
.

I

do

have

a

lot

of

other

experiences

that

I've

had

along

the

way

in

terms

of

businesses

and

stuff

that

I

worked

on
,

but

yeah
,

it's

a

lot

actually
,

but

this

is

just

the

fast

summary

of

what

actually

took

place

in

that

journey
.

Speaker 1
2:56

Next
,

can

you

describe

a

personal

story

or

experience

that

has

influenced

who

you

are

today
?

Speaker 2
3:04

So

I

can

take

off

a

specific

instance

actually
.

So

this

is

me

picture

this

back

home

in

the

Caribbean

trying

to

find

jobs

online
.

So

just

to

give

you

context
,

at

the

time

I

did

have

a

corporate

job

and

everything
,

and

back

home

it's

a

well-paying

job
,

but

compared

on

a

global

scale

it's

nothing

right
,

it's

a

drop

in

the

bucket
.

And

at

the

time

I'm

looking

at

the

options

Okay
,

how

do

I

get

a

job

online
?

How

do

I

actually

make

money

online

and

I

can

travel

and

do

all

these

things
.

And

then

I

started

looking

at

different

options
.

I

came

across

I

think

it's

called

Amazon

Mechanicalk

something

doing

like

random

manual

tasks

every

day
,

like

clicking

stuff

and

everything
,

just

to

make

a

couple

cents

or

a

dollar

or

something
.

And

then

I

couldn't

even

do

that

right
,

because
,

being

from

the

caribbean
,

you're

like

I

don't

know
,

somehow

blacklisted

from

the

banking
,

basically

anything

on

the

outside
.

It's

crazy
.

As

long

as

you

have

this

nationality
,

it's

very

challenging

and

I

know

a

lot

of

people

who

have

this

struggle

as

well
.

Speaker 2
4:14

So

just

getting

that

first

$1

online
,

it

has

been

a

real

challenge

for

me

in

the

very

beginning

and

I

didn't

have

a

way

to

break

past

this

except

actually

moving

physically

to

a

different

location

and

starting

making

money

there
.

At

that

time

I

just

couldn't

crack

the

code
,

I

couldn't

find

a

solution

because
,

even

if

I

got

something
,

I

would

need

to

set

up

banking
.

How

do

I

receive

payments
,

because

local

banks

don't

even

take

payments

internationally

receive

payments

because

local

banks

don't

even

take

payments

internationally
?

It's

crazy
.

Now
,

of

course
,

that

is

super

frustrating
,

right
.

So

that

led

me

along

the

path

that

I

am

now
,

so

I'm

grateful

for

it

as

well
.

But

yeah
,

I

remember

that

particular

instance

just

being

there
,

grinding

it

out
,

looking

for

opportunities

on

making

money

abroad

and

everything

or

online
.

Yeah
,

that

has

been

a

real

pain

and

since

then
,

like

my

mind

is

open
,

like

the

opportunities

has

come

and

I

see

how

it's

actually

possible

for

someone

like

me

in

that

situation

to

actually

have

access

to

the

outside

world
,

so

to

say
.

Speaker 1
5:23

As

you

look

back

on

your

life

and

connect

the

dots

that

led

you

where

you

are

now
.

What

are

those

dots
?

Speaker 2
5:32

It's

a

good

question
,

but

it's

hard

to

say

exactly

which

dots

right
,

because

literally

every

decision
,

every

choice
,

every

event

leads

you

to

where

you

are
.

But

for

me

it

hasn't

been

a

straight

path
,

and

I

don't

think

it

is

for

most

people
,

because

of

the

amount

of

things

that

I've

done

before

to

get

me

to

where

I

am

and

somehow

it

all

pieces

together
.

So

I'll

just

give

you

some

background
.

Like

I

said

before

that
,

I

studied

a

business

in

high

school
,

but

after

that

I

did

go

directly

into

computer

science

and

then

the

reason
,

the

logic

behind

me

going

into

computer

science
,

was

that

I

had

an

interest
,

first

of

all
,

but

secondly
,

I

knew

it

was

going

to

be

where

everything

is

headed

right
.

At

the

time
,

everyone

was

starting

to

get

personal

computers

and

this

smartphone

started

to

become

hugely

adopted

and

everything
.

So

I

knew

I

could

anticipate

okay
,

this

is

where

it's

going

to

go

tech

right
,

at

least
.

Having

a

strong

background

in

that
,

at

the

time

I

really

loved

it

Web

design
,

coding
,

all

of

these

things

and

I

said

I

started

an

agency

as

well
.

I

was

providing

like

web

design

services
,

social

media

marketing

services
.

It

was

really

broad

because

at

that

time

there

wasn't

a

lot

of

people

doing

it

right
.

So

you

just

pull

from

everywhere

and

as

long

as

you

had

some

technical

knowledge
,

you'd

be

able

to

do

really

well
.

And

yeah
,

at

the

same

time

I

was

looking

for

a

corporate

job
,

because

having

a

steady

income

to

pay

off

debts

and

everything

is

what

we

go

through

college

and

everything

for
.

And

I

did

manage

to

get

something
.

I

did

get

an

internship
.

I

had

18

months

to

prove

myself

and

I

did
.

While

I

was

working

my

corporate

job
,

I

built

one

of

the

first

mobile
,

the

first

mobile

app

in

the

company
,

solidified

my

position

and

I

ended

up

staying

there

for

four

to

five

years
,

as

I

mentioned

earlier
.

Speaker 2
7:27

Now

even

my

time

in

corporate
.

I

started

in

the

corporate

world

at

19
.

Everyone

was

practically

twice

my

age
,

sometimes

even

more

right

often
.

But

I

got

to

see

how

a

huge

corporation

runs
.

It's

a

multi-billion

dollar

corporation

and

I

get

to

see

the

processes
,

how

people

function

within

teams
,

the

whole

dynamic

of

it
.

So

it

really

caused

me

to

mature

much

quicker

than

I

would

say

if

I

was

on

my

own

or

started

off

at

a

small

company

or

something

like

that
.

So

that

really

sped

things

up

for

me

and

just

being

around

these

people

day

to

day
,

seeing

how

they

think
,

besides

work
,

how

they

run

their

lives

and

everything
.

It

was

really

interesting

and

really

fast

learning
.

Speaker 2
8:08

And

then

from

there

it

clicked

for

me

that

I

have

to

leave
,

even

maybe

a

year

or

two

in
.

But

it

took

a

while
.

Right
,

paying

off

debt
,

finding

the

opportunity

and

all

of

that

was

a

real

challenge
,

but

it

did

come

through
,

because

the

main

thing

is

persistency
.

I

tried

so

many

times
.

I

got

rejected

so

many

times

because

my

nationality

and

everything

didn't

have

the

experience
,

the

whole

shebang

and

but

after

enough

tries

something

will

come

through
.

It's

just

about

continuously

testing

it

out
.

And

then

I

came

to

marketing
,

but

my

background

is

tech
,

is

marketing
,

so

it's

a

lot

of

things

that

I

have

interest

in
,

but

it

came

along

somehow

with

everything

that

I

did

before
.

Leadership and Marketing Passion

Speaker 1
8:53

Why

did

you

decide

to

become

a

leader

in

your

chosen

niche
?

Speaker 2
8:57

Well
,

me

it

came

somewhat

natural

right
.

I

don't

know

if

I'm

one

of

the

top

leaders

yet
,

but

I

will

get

there
.

Marketing

for

me
,

is

something

that

I

enjoy

thoroughly
.

It's

my

passion
.

I

eat
,

breathe
,

sleep

marketing

and

it

has

gotten

me

to

where

I

am

right

now
.

My

life
,

it's

changed

my

life
,

so

to

say

my

personal

life
,

my

income
,

my

passion
,

how

I

contribute

to

the

world
,

like

it's

all

through

marketing
.

And

I

would

say
,

why

did

I

become

this

person

in

my

field
?

It's

simply

because

of

interest
,

it's

because

of

passion

and

it's

because

of

that

drive
,

that

inner

drive
,

to

actually

pursue

this

field
.

Speaker 2
9:41

And

the

thing

is
,

I

don't

like

to

compare

and

say
,

like

I

am

this

person

compared

to

this

person

or

vice

versa
.

However
,

it's

to

be

recognized
,

to

be

seen

as

a

leader

in

a

field

or

anything
,

you

need

to

have

some

sort

of

accolade

to

it
,

you

need

to

have

some

proven

track

record
,

you

need

to

be

doing

things

and

it

comes

as

a

result

of

that
.

So

it's

more

about

it's

more

about

focusing

on

the

processes

as

to

the

end

result

all

the

time
,

because

if

you're

continuously

building
,

developing
,

learning

new

things
,

testing

new

things

and

getting

results

like

for

me

it's

marketing

previous

jobs

where

I

made

like

million

dollar

launches

or

took

products

from

zero

to

20

million

in

a

year
,

or

doing

a

product

launch

in

a

couple

of

days
,

generating

millions
.

Like

these

kind

of

things
.

It

comes

naturally

when

you

focus

on

the

process

and

optimizing

and

really

looking

to

deliver

results

rather

than

just

focus

on

oh
,

oh
,

I

just

want

to

be

seen

as

this

person
,

but

then

there's

nothing

to

back

it

up
.

Speaker 2
10:46

So

first
,

the

first

step

is

building

the

reputation

and

actually

delivering

results
,

and

then

it

just

comes

naturally
.

After

that
,

Even

after

corporate

spending

a

few

years
,

eight

years

specifically

just

going

out

after

that

doing

freelancing

and

stuff

is

okay
.

How

can

I

replicate

the

results

that

I've

gotten

before

for

anyone
,

whether

it's

a

creator

monetizing

their

Instagram

and

selling

online

courses
,

or

a

big

company

who's

scaling

a

platform

for

50

to

100

million

marketing

principles
?

It

stays

the

same

across

the

board

writers

it's

about

communicating

the

value

to

the

potential

customer

that

would

part

with

X

amount

of

dollars

for

your

product

service
.

Whatever

it

is

you're

actually

delivering
.

First
,

you

need

to

learn

how

to

make

one

dollar
,

then

ten

dollars

and

a

hundred

dollars
,

and

a

thousand

and

a

million
,

then

a

hundred

million
,

and

it

then

$10
,

then

$100
,

then

$1,000
,

then

$1,000,000
,

then

$100,000,000
.

And

it

doesn't

end
.

Numbers

don't

end
.

But

yeah
,

it

starts

with

building

up

the

actual

results
.

Speaker 1
12:01

And

once

you

have

that
,

it

has

a

snowball

effect

afterwards

into

anything

you're

actually

doing
.

Speaker 2
12:05

What

was

the

best

advice

anyone

ever

gave

you

and

did

you

follow

it
?

So

I

don't

know

if

it

constitutes

as

advice
,

but

I

have

a

friend

and

client

of

mine

and

he

said

he

said
,

Neil
,

you're

a

ready

fire
,

aim

type

of

person
.

You

should

keep

that
.

And

it

really

describes

how

I

am
.

I

don't

overthink

things
,

I

don't

over

plan

things
,

I

don't

over

strategize

things
.

Sometimes

you

just

need

to

get

momentum
,

especially

on

your

projects

and

ideas

right
,

Because

a

lot

of

people

I

would

say

nine

out

of

10

people

they're

stuck

in

this

ideation

stage

and

for

me

I've

never

really

had

that

problem

because
,

like

he

said
,

I've

always

been

a

ready

fire
,

then

aim

type

of

person
.

Speaker 2
12:46

Not

the

best

advice
,

but

it

has

been

given

and

there's

pros

and

cons

to

it
,

of

course
,

but

for

me

it's

like

the

main

thing

out

of

that

that

can

be

actionable

is

action

right
,

Is

taking

action
,

because

this

is

where

most

people

fall

short

Just

not

following

through

and

taking

that

first

step
,

because

it's

easy

to

map

anything

out

and

have

the

best

spreadsheets

and

data

and

research

and

read

10

books

and

do

this

course

and

follow

this

coach

or

whatever

it

may

be
.

They

always

need

to

do

something

or

learn

something

before

they

can

do

the

thing
.

But

I

think

having

that

bias

towards

action

and

actually

taking

the

first

steps

and

letting

it

go

with

momentum
,

I

think

that

is

what

is

really

important
.

So
,

based

on

that

remark
,

which

I

would

constitute

as

advice
,

I

think

that

is

something

that

is

actionable

right

there
,

just

taking

that

action
.

Remote Work and Entrepreneurship Benefits

Speaker 1
13:48

And

what

made

you

choose

remote

work

and

how

has

it

benefited

you

so
?

Speaker 2
13:53

choosing

remote

work

as

an

option

for

me

has

been

like

a

goal

from

the

beginning
,

even

when

I

was

in

corporate
,

even

when

I

lived

in

the

Caribbean
,

and

that

was

already

six
,

six
,

seven

years

ago

since

I

left
.

But

it

took

me

a

while

to

get

to

that

point
,

like

I

mentioned

earlier
,

searching

for

opportunities

online

and

not

getting

anything

no

one

wanting

to

hire
.

You

can't

even

plug

into

anything

online

because

you

can't

get

banking

or

payments

or

anything

like

that
,

just

because

of

your

nationality
.

So

it

came

somewhat

out

of

frustration
,

because

I

really

love

to

travel
,

explore
,

having

that

adventurous

lifestyle
,

and

remote

work

was

the

thing

that

could

support
,

that

would

give

you

the

opportunity

to

be

anywhere

and

just

plug

into

a

laptop
,

plug

into

Wi-Fi

and

that's

it
,

get

your

stuff

done
.

And

in

terms

of

benefits
,

for

me

it

changed

my

life

right
.

I

literally

live

in

different

countries

at

multiple

times

per

year
.

Right

now

I'm

living

with

my

family

in

Argentina

and

we

can

move

as

a

family

because

of

the

fact

that

I

have

remote

right
.

For

example
,

we

were

in

Mexico

seven

months
,

now

we're

in

Buenos

Aires

and

after

that

we're

gonna

go

to

Europe

and

then

to

Asia
,

who

knows
,

because

the

options

is

there

right
.

So

basically
,

it

opens

things

up

for

you

in

terms

of

freedom

and

choices
,

and

I

love
,

love

having

that

right

To

me
.

That's

why

I

work

hard

to

have

these

options

and

choices
.

And

besides

that
,

yeah
,

I

think

it

really

pays

off

financially

as

well
.

Speaker 2
15:36

If

you

get

really

good

at

what

you

do
,

you

do

a

great

work
.

People

would

happily

compensate

you

for

that
.

I'm

in

the

field

of

marketing

and

I

have

done

well

in

it
.

It's

allowed

me

to

do

some

really

great

things
.

Speaker 2
15:51

For

example
,

I

built

my

mama

house

and

I

got

to

do

it

hands-on

because

I

was

working

remotely

at

the

time
.

I

was

hands-on

building

this

house

in

the

caribbean

and

it

was

like

one

of

the

most

fun

projects

I

did

is

just

building

a

house

during

the

day
,

but

at

night

I'm

there

doing

my

work
,

and

you

can

only

do

that

with

remote

work
.

And

then

at

time
,

my

client

was

in

Singapore

a

company

there

and

it

allowed

me

the

freedom

to

do

that
.

So

I

was

earning
,

delivering

my

work

and

still

having

the

opportunity

to

fly

to

the

Caribbean
,

be

there
,

build

this

house

hands-on

and

get

it

done

house

from

zero

to

completion
,

moving

in
,

super

fulfilling

and
,

yeah
,

I

can't

think

of

another

type

of

job

that

would

allow

something

like

this

to

happen
.

So

yeah
,

I

think

to

me

it's

a

no-brainer

with

my

lifestyle

and

what

I

want
.

I

need

to

be

remote

and

have

the

option

to

be

remote

what

are

your

best

tips

for

organizing

your

day

and

staying

productive
?

Speaker 2
16:56

so

I'll

tell

you

this
,

being

remote

and

unproductive

kind

of

goes

hand

in

hand

for

a

lot

of

people

right
,

even

for

me

in

the

beginning

because

you

go

from

being

in

an

office

and

only

having

to

work

there

to

being

anywhere

and

having

the

option

to

procrastinate
.

No

one

is

around
,

no

accountability

really
.

And

it

gets

even

worse

if

you're

your

own

boss
,

if

you're

an

entrepreneur

and

this

kind

of

stuff

or

freelancer
,

whatever

it

may

be
,

because

there's

not

much

accountability
,

at

least

no

boss

or

anything

like

that
.

But

how

can

you

stay

organized

and

productive
?

So

for

me

now

I've

locked

it

down

this

way

when

I

move

to

a

place
,

I

live

in

a

triangle

somewhat
.

I

have

my

apartment
,

I

have

a

co-working

space

and

I

have

the

gym

and

I

circle

between

these

three

places

80%

of

the

time
.

Other

than

that
,

maybe

sometimes

in

the

evening

and

stuff
.

I

may

go

out

on

the

weekends
,

but

now

I

have

a

family

Not

so

much

going

out

at

night

but

at

least

on

the

weekends

and

stuff
,

because

what's

the

point

in

living

in

a

new

place

if

you

don't

explore

and

stuff
?

And

just

having

that

triangle
,

as

I

call

it
,

is

a

huge

win

for

me
.

Now
,

specifically

within

your

days

and

stuff
,

of

course

there's

things

that

are

going

to

come

up
.

Speaker 2
18:21

However
,

just

time

blocking
.

Blocking

having

that

accountability

if

you

have

a

team
,

if

you

have

someone

that

that

you

work

with
,

having

that

accountability
,

having

deliverables
,

setting

your

okrs

as

in

what

you

need

to

achieve

by

when
,

so

that

things

actually

move
.

So

it

comes

down

to

the

individual

as

well
,

and

with

how

their

working

style

is

and

everything
,

but

for

me
,

I

think
,

yeah
,

just

time

blocking

is

one

of

the

most

important

things
,

because
,

so
,

it

comes

down

to

the

individual

as

well

and

how

their

working

style

is

and

everything
,

but

for

me
,

I

think
,

yeah
,

just

time

blocking

is

one

of

the

most

important

things
,

because

comms

like

Slack

messages
,

whatsapps
,

emails

all

these

things

sneak

in

and

break

your

productivity
.

So

it's

like

turning

off

the

phone

or

putting

it

on

airplane

mode
,

whatever

it

may

be
,

just

to

actually

get

real

work

done
.

Because

then

there's

meetings

as

well
,

and

there's

so

many

meetings

that

are

like

unproductive

or

it's

just

costing

a

lot

of

revenue
,

right
?

So

think

about

it

If

you

have

five

people

on

a

team
,

each

making

X

amount

of

dollars
,

and

every

hour

of

meetings

with

everyone
,

that's

costing

a

lot

to

the

company
,

right
?

So

you

need

to

think

about

things

this

way

as

well
.

Speaker 2
19:29

That's

your

entrepreneur
,

but

it

can

apply

across

the

board
,

right
,

it

depends

on

everyone's

working

style

and

stuff
.

But

yeah
,

just

being

uh

accountable

I

think

is

a

really

good

start
,

uh
,

to

begin

with
.

So

then

you

have

to

push

things
,

because

procrastination

kind

of

sneaks

in
,

you

know
,

for

everyone
,

no

matter

what

level
.

Accountable
,

I

think

is

a

really

good

start

to

begin

with
.

So

then

you

have

to

push

things
,

because

procrastination

kind

of

sneaks

in
,

you

know
,

for

everyone
,

no

matter

what

level

you

may

be

at
.

But

when

you're

in

flow

state

and

you're

actually

in

execution
,

sometimes

it

can

go

for

a

day

into

night
,

kind

of

thing
,

and

and

that

is

great

when

that

happens
,

but

it's

not

all

the

time
,

right

so

now

I

want

to

find

out

more

about

the

company

that

you're

part

of
.

Speaker 1
20:02

So

can

you

please

begin

by

telling

me

more

about

the

company

that

you're

part

of

and

its

origin

story
?

Speaker 2
20:11

Yeah
,

sure
,

Multiply

Agency

started

a

couple

of

years

back

and

it

has

been

a

company

that

I

co-founded
,

of

course
,

with

a

co-founder
,

and

it's

been

a

natural

progression
,

like

because

I

left

the

corporate

world
.

Like

I

said

before
,

I

used

to

be

head

of

subscriptions

at

Mindvalley

and

then

I

launched

their

product

from

zero

to

20

million

in

one

year
.

It's

a

digital

subscription

to

all

their

programs
,

online

courses
,

and

since

then

I

have

been

consulting

and

stuff
.

But

that's

not

scalable
,

right
?

They're

just

spending

hours

of

my

time

just

being

on

calls

and

telling

people

what

to

do

with

their

business

and

how

to

make

more

money

and

scale

things

up
.

I

naturally

progressed

towards

this

model

and

I

pitched

it

to

my

co-founder

and

then
,

yeah
,

just

like

that
,

in

Bali
,

we

decided

in

one

day

okay
,

let's

start

an

agency
.

And

we

literally

sat

one

day
,

we

blocked

off
,

we

designed

a

website
,

write

the

copy
,

come

up

with

the

offers
.

Like
,

literally

everything

was

so

fast

because

it

was

just

something

that

was

that

needed

to

come

out
,

that

needed

to

be

in

the

world
,

that

needed

to

exist
.

And

yeah
,

from

there

since

then

it's

been

crazy
.

We've

been

growing

a

lot
,

hiring

everything
.

Speaker 2
21:30

We

have

a

team

spread

across

the

world
,

from

Asia

to

Europe
,

to

me

and

the

Americas
.

We

have

clients

across

the

world
,

from

Singapore

to

Europe

to

Canada
,

north

America
,

like

everywhere
,

and

we

have

the

funny

thing

is
,

for

an

agency
,

we

haven't

done

any

marketing
,

it's

all

been
.

It

would

have

mouthed
.

Because

that's

the

thing

Once

you

deliver

results
,

it

just

comes

naturally

right
.

So

people

start

recommending

you

and

sometimes
,

of

course
,

in

agency

model
,

you

take

on

different

clients

and

stuff
.

Speaker 2
22:01

Some

people

have

niches
,

but

for

us

we're

all

about

scaling

and

we

take

companies

that

just

want

to

scale

their

marketing
.

But

we

have

somewhat

locked

down

or

gotten

a

bit

tighter
.

So

right

now

we

focus

on

companies
,

scale-ups
,

what

we

call

it

and

then

companies

that

want

to

take

products
,

market

and

then

creators
,

so

those

with

their

followers

who

have

emailed

us
.

They

really

want

to

get

things

going
.

So

we

came

down

to

those

After

a

long

time

of

testing
,

had

really

working

with

different

clients

across

the

world

and
,

yeah
,

it's

been

been

somewhat
.

How

do

I

describe

this

natural

progression

towards

where

we

are

now
?

Because

it

modeled

on

the

demand

that

me

and

my

co-founder

had

as

freelancers

at

the

time

and

this

consultant

into

this

agency

or

model

of

having

an

agency
.

Speaker 1
23:02

And

what's

unique

about

the

company
.

Speaker 2
23:04

So

what

I

would

say

is

unique

is

the

way

we

built

it

from

the

ground

up
.

There's

countless

marketing

agencies

out

there

Now
.

A

lot

of

them
.

They

focus

on

specific

things
,

different

niches
,

all

of

this
,

right
.

What

we

focus

on

is

on

revenue

generation
,

because
,

at

the

end

of

the

day
,

the

bottom

line

how

much

money

the

business

brings

in

is

one

of

the

main

things

that

matters
,

right
.

Everything

depends

on

that
.

If

you

can

hire
,

if

you

can

scale
,

if

you

can

grow
,

if

you

can

take

on

different

initiatives

like

a

business

is

essentially

a

vehicle

that

generates

the

revenue
.

Right
,

and

how

you

do

that

is

by

product

services
,

whatever

you

deliver
.

Speaker 2
23:44

So

we

built

it

from

the

ground

up

and

that's

our

main

thing

that

we

focus

on
.

It

is

on

generating

revenue
,

and

our

team

is

diverse
.

We're

very

highly

experienced

and

skilled

people

brought

together

by

me

and

my

co-founder

from

around

the

world
,

and

we

all

have

experience

in

this
,

and

it

can

be

different

methods
,

right
.

Whether

it's

scaling

on

ads
,

using

ASE

campaigns

on

Meta

or

Google

or

YouTube

or

UGC
,

or

if

it's

email

campaigns

or

product

launch
.

Like

all

of

these

things

we

have

in-house

right
.

We've

sourced

these

talented

people

that

can

actually

do

this
,

but

for

the

end

result

of

generating

revenue
.

So

we

don't

fixate

too

much

on

the

methods
,

because

it

depends
,

client

by

client
,

on

where

they

are

at
,

what

they

want
,

what

are

their

goals
,

and

we

actually

go

in

there

and

create

the

strategy

and

help

them

execute

it

based

on

that
.

So
,

yeah
,

the

main

thing

that

sets

us

apart

is

our

singular

focus

on

generating

revenue

for

clients
.

Speaker 1
24:47

What's

your

philosophy

on

building

a

great

team
?

Speaker 2
24:50

So
,

building

a

great

team
,

I

would

say

first

of

all
,

you

need

to

look

for

A

players
.

You

need

to

get

the

best

hires

right
.

So

one

of

the

first

things

I

did

when

I

started

hiring

is

I

found

the

smartest

people

that

I

know

within

my

network

and

I

hired

them

and

I

didn't

really

care

too

much

about

what

it

costs

like
,

even

if

it

was

me

sacrificing

and

not

getting

paid
.

That's

just

part

of

it
.

When

you're

building

a

business
,

right
,

if

you

think

you

need

to

be

making

millions

of

dollars

from

the

very

start
,

then

I

don't

know

if

that's

the

best

approach

For

me
.

I

don't

mind

taking

a

hit

in

the

beginning
,

but

just

getting

really

good

talent

and

having

them

produce

their

best

work
,

because

it

depends

on

your

business
,

depends

on

this
,

right
.

If

you're

producing

work

for

clients

in

my

case
,

for

example
,

I'm

a

service-based

business

we

need

to

deliver

really

good

work

and

it's

important

that

I

have

the

best

people

for

that

Building a Strong Company Culture

Speaker 2
25:47

.

Speaker 2
25:47

Now
,

in

terms

of

a

philosophy
,

the

thing

is
,

if

you

hire

these

people
,

they're

a

players
.

They're

passionate

about

what

they

do

in

my

case
,

is

marketing
.

It

builds

out

itself
,

so

they

embody

this

already

and

then

you

set

the

tone

for

what

the

team

culture

is

and

stuff
,

and

especially

with

a

remote

team

it's

a

bit

challenging

because

you

don't

have

that

in-person

cadence

of

having

things

going

meetings
,

just

interaction
,

water

chat
,

whatever

it

may

be
,

but
,

yeah
,

just

having

great

people
.

I

think

the

culture

naturally

builds

off

of

that

and

then

as

a

leader
,

it

would

take

you

to

set

the

tone
,

the

direction

as

to

where

the

company

is

headed
,

the

direction

keeping

them

motivated

and

everything
,

and

making

sure

everyone

is

well

compensated
,

keeping

them

motivated

and

everything

and

making

sure

everyone

is

well

compensated

and
,

of

course
,

passionate

about

what

they're

doing
.

Because

if

you

have

anyone

that

is

not

passionate

and

just

not

at

that

a

player

level
,

of

course

it's

going

to

bring

down

the

rest

of

the

quality

of

the

team

as

well

can

you

talk

me

through

the

steps

of

your

hiring

process
?

Speaker 1
26:58

how

would

you

describe

the

company's

success

so

far
?

Speaker 2
27:01

Yeah
,

so

far
,

I

would

think

I

would

say

so

far
.

I

would

say

it's

been

really

solid
,

a

solid

growth

trajectory
,

like

starting

off

with

just

two

of

us

co-founders

and

now

we

have

a

distributed

team

across

the

world
.

We've

got

six

people

always

looking

to

hire

more

steady

clients
.

Most

agencies

out

there

they're

always

in

acquisition

mode

trying

to

get

a

client

trying

to

get

a

client

because

they

have

high

churn

right
,

so

they're

in

the

business

of

getting

new

clients
.

But

we're

more

focused

on

retaining
,

delivering

the

best

quality
,

the

best

results

for

our

clients
,

and

I

think

that

has

helped

us

a

lot

actually

get

to

where

we

are

now

in

a

short

space

of

time
.

Speaker 2
27:46

We're

growing

probably

more

than

100%

year

on

year
.

I

don't

even

pay

so

much

details

to

the

numbers

because

I'm

so

in

it
,

but

yeah
,

because

I

know

we

are

growing

a

lot

and

I'm

not

fixated

on

a

specific

metric

like

that
.

It's

just

how

do

I

deliver

the

best

quality
,

how

do

I

get

the

best

clients

and

how

do

I

build

a

world-class

team

around

that
?

And
,

yeah
,

just

keep

the

momentum

going
.

It's

been

pretty

solid
,

built

on

the

back

that

we

try

to

always

under

promise

and

over

deliver

and
,

of

course
,

keep

the

quality

top

notch

and

aim

for

results

always

because

we

are

a

performance-based

marketing

agency
.

It's

very

important

that

we

actually

deliver

results

right
,

because

then

we

won't

have

anything

to

show
.

We

won't

have

anything

to

prove

to

future

clients

as

well
,

or

even

to

our

own

clients

or
,

most

importantly
,

to

ourselves
,

that

we

are

competent
,

that

we

can

actually

deliver

results
.

Speaker 1
28:45

And

what's

next

on

the

horizon
?

Speaker 2
28:48

So

what's

next
?

I

guess

this

is

somewhat

private
,

but

I

don't

mind

sharing
.

So

right

now

we

have

the

agency

arm
,

but

what

we're

building

is

an

academy

to

actually

help

future

marketers
,

freelancers
,

online

entrepreneurs
,

wherever

it

may

be
,

to

this

level
,

because

we

have

so

much

exposure

to

so

many

companies

and

so

many

niches
,

we

know

what's

actually

working
,

what's

actually

current

for

this

time
,

right

now
,

right

here
,

on

what's

converting
,

what's

getting

people

to

buy
,

what

scaling

companies
,

what

metrics
,

how

to

do

your

creatives
,

everything

Whether

it's

copywritingwriting
,

course

creation
,

all

of

these

things
,

because

we're

a

team

that

oversees

hundreds

of

millions

in

ads

being

spent
,

courses

being

created
.

We

sell

everything

from

a

one

dollar

product

to

a

hundred

k

product
.

So

we

have

a

lot

of

experience

and

this

is

knowledge

that

we

can

share

out

there
.

We

are

working

actively

right

now

on

building

out

that

academy
.

So

we're

going

to

be

calling

it

Multiply

Academy

and

we're

aiming

to

launch

it

this

year
,

later

on

this

year
.

So

right

now

we

just

have

Multiply

Agency

and
,

of

course
,

the

goal

is

to

scale

that

up

as

much

as

possible

at

the

same

time
.

The

goal

is

to

scale

that

up

as

much

as

possible

at

the

same

time
.

Yeah
,

just

focusing

on

that

element

on

that

business

while

we

build

this

as

well
.

Speaker 2
30:33

I

would

say
,

yeah
,

that's

the

next

thing
,

and
,

of

course
,

we're

always

looking

for

the

next

company

that

can

take

off

or

creator

that

can

take

off
,

for

example
.

Example
,

we

work

with

creators

and

some

of

them

we

partner

with

and

then

they

may

have

an

instagram

following
.

For

example
,

we

have

this

one

person

who

has

150k

followers

on

instagram
.

We

were

able

to

generate

128

grand

in

one

week

from

launching

his

online

program

from

him

because

he

didn't

know

how

to

do

it

before
.

He

has

done

launches

and

stuff

made

a

couple

grand
,

but

didn't

know

how

to

do

it

before
.

Speaker 2
31:00

He

has

done

launches

and

stuff

made

a

couple

of

grand
,

but

didn't

know

how

to

do

it

this

way
,

selling

things

like

high

ticket

and

everything
,

and

yeah
,

and

then

giving

our

companies

that

we

work

with

as

well

the

best

results

possible
.

Like

right

now
,

we're

helping

a

company

scale

from

50

to

100

million
.

So

the

thing

is
,

the

fixation

for

us

is

on

delivering

the

results

and

for

us

it

just

naturally

works

out

in

our

favor
.

Right
.

Once

we

deliver

those

results
,

they'll

be

happy

to

compensate

us

for

the

value

we

have

delivered
.

So
,

yeah
,

that's

a

little

bit

about

where

we're

heading
.

Speaker 1
31:31

Next
,

Is

there

a

particular

team

or

company

whose

culture

you

admire
?

Speaker 2
31:38

Yes
,

as

I

mentioned
,

I

used

to

work

in

Mindvalley

before

and

we

had

a

really

good

culture

there
,

as

in
.

Speaker 2
31:44

Everyone

was

mission-oriented
,

bringing

impact

to

humanity
,

impacting

billion

lives
,

and

then

the

team

as

well

has

been

really

solid

there
,

like

we're

still

all

of

us
,

we're

still

friends

to

this

day

and

probably

lifetime

for

sure
.

Speaker 2
32:02

But

the

thing

is

that

culture

there

that

we

built

up

was

really

around

camaraderie

and

focusing

on

the

team

and

not

the

individual

so

much
,

and

really

supporting

and

helping

each

other
,

at

the

same

time

having

fun

doing

things

outside

of

work

and

stuff

together
.

And

and

you

would

think

that
,

oh
,

as

I

worked

in

the

corporate

world

before

oil

and

gas
,

traditional

industry

you

don't

see

that

so

much
.

Everyone

is

friends

and

doing

things

outside

of

work

and

stuff
.

But

in

this

instance

it

was

so

much

different

and

that

is

something

I

really

admire

and

something

I

do

have

in

my

company

today

as

well
.

I

think

it's

important

when

you

work

with

the

people

that

you

enjoy

being

around

and

are

friends

with
.

It

just

makes

it

so

much

better

because

we

spend

so

much

of

our

lives

like

one

third

of

our

lives

and

more

actually

working

right
,

almost

an

entire

working

waking

day

is

spent

on

work
,

so

might

as

well

enjoy

with

people

you

like

to

be

around
.

Speaker 2
32:58

So

fostering

that

culture

of

collaboration

and

being

friends

and

all

that
,

it's

really

solid

and
,

as

we

begin

to

wrap

up
,

what

excites

you

about

what's

ahead

so

I

would

say

right

now

the

hype

is

on

ai

and

everything
,

and

I'm

really

excited

for

that

right
,

because

there's

so

many

tools

and

platforms

and

software

and

everything

that's

being

created

today

to

basically

make

our

processes
,

our

workflows
,

our

daily

lives

work

faster
,

better
,

sometimes
,

more

quality

Not

always
,

but

if

we

come

to

Reliant
.

But

I

would

say

what

excites

me

about

this

is

the

fact

that

marketing

my

field

is

based

on

human

psychology
.

So

with

AI
,

with

all

the

tools

out

there
,

it's

very

logical
.

It's

very

focused

on

the

numbers
,

right
,

which

is

huge
,

and

we

rely

on

numbers

a

lot
,

right
?

Numbers

help

us

make

decisions
.

Speaker 2
33:55

I

think

having

that

human

element

would

be

even

more

in

demand

in

the

future
,

while

everyone

becomes

more

reliant

on

these

tools

and

technologies

and

everything
,

because

you

can

have

AI

write

your

code
,

build

your

apps
,

whatever

it

is
,

but

you

need

someone

who

understands

human

beings
.

At

the

end

of

the

day
,

if

you're

selling

to

human

beings

and

I'm

excited

about

that

I

think

there

would

be

somewhat

of

a

renaissance

where

really

understanding

customers
,

understanding

how

the

markets

think
,

behavioral-wise

and

everything
,

of

course
,

enhance

with

AI

and

the

tools

and

everything

for

the

data
,

the

numbers

and

everything

and
,

of

course
,

getting

suggestions
,

but

you

still

need

that

human

element
.

I

think

that

it's

going

to

be

even

more

in

demand

in

the

future

as

people

become

more

reliant

on

these

tools

and

everything
.

It's

just

knowing

how

to

work

with

it

and

not

let

it

just

take

over

and

become

the

only

source

and

what

do

you

like

to

do

when

you're

not

working
?

Speaker 2
34:57

yeah
,

so

I

have

a

lot

of

hobbies

and

passions
,

but

I

recently

became

a

father

so

that

kind

of

occupies

a

lot

of

my

time

while

I'm

not

working
.

But

other

than

that

I

really

like

working

out
.

I

like

to

travel

obviously

I'm

traveling

with

my

family

with

a

six-month-old

baby

now
,

but

yeah
,

I

like

rock

climbing
,

I

like

gymnastics
,

I

like

calisthenics

Just

adventure

stuff

and
,

of

course
,

just

hanging

out

with

friends

having

fun
.

And

I

think

learning

it

takes

up

a

lot

of

my

time

as

well
.

I'm

always

reading
,

studying
,

doing

some

course

something

when

I'm

not

working
,

and

I'm

at

the

point

right

now

where

even

work

doesn't

really

feel

like

work

most

of

the

time

because

I'm

doing

what

I

enjoy

right
,

like

literally

people

are

paying

me

to

help

them

make

more

money

and

paying

me

at

the

same

time

to

do

that
.

So

it's

fun

for

me

because

I

learn

so

much

every

single

day
.

Speaker 2
35:55

I

get

to

talk

to

CEOs

on

a

daily

basis

who

build

companies
,

are

making

millions
,

tens

of

millions
,

hundreds

of

millions
.

Some

of

them

are

even

billionaires

sometimes

and

I

get

to

learn

from

them

while

they're

paying

me

to

optimize

their

stuff

or

teach

them

something

that

I

know

I'm

learning

at

the

same

time

Balancing Work and Personal Life

Speaker 2
36:14

.

So

to

me
.

It

blends

my

work

but
,

yeah
,

outside

of

work

it

blends

my

work

but
,

yeah
,

outside

of

work
.

I

do

try

to

keep

that

time

separate

from

my

family
,

for

my

hobbies
,

for

my

interests

as

well
.

So

I

think

it's

important

as

well
.

When

you

leave

something

just

sitting

and

you

come

back

to

it
,

you

get

a

fresh

perspective

in

everything
.

So

it

is

important
.

I

don't

always

heed

this

advice
,

but

yes
,

it

is

necessary

and

I

acknowledge

that

as

well
.

Speaker 1
36:41

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Life

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