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RWL051 David Outpost How to Thrive in a Remote Work Lifestyle through Co-Living and Immersive Travel

Unlock the secrets of a fulfilling remote work lifestyle with David, the visionary co-founder of Outpost, as he walks us through the appeal of co-living and co-working in paradise. Imagine escaping the monotony of a nine-to-five cubicle for the vibrant co-working villages of Bali and Cambodia. David reveals how Outpost creates a unique environment where millennials and digital nomads can thrive through casual meet-ups over donuts and structured activities like yoga classes and SEO lessons. Gain insight into how these shared experiences foster genuine relationships and professional growth in some of the world’s most beautiful settings.

Explore the transformative power of immersive travel with us. Learn why younger generations are shifting away from whirlwind tours and embracing extended stays that allow for deep cultural immersion and meaningful connections. David shares how platforms like Outpost help travelers engage more deeply with their surroundings, leading to significant personal growth. From challenging situations that become learning experiences to the satisfaction of truly knowing a place, discover the profound benefits of slowing down and staying put.

Finally, uncover the diverse opportunities for growth and community at Outpost. From mastering Python in the Code Remote program to embarking on a journey of self-discovery in the Life Design Lab, Outpost offers something for everyone. David emphasizes the importance of building a global network in a multicultural environment while maintaining the irreplaceable value of face-to-face interactions. Whether you’re considering a remote work lifestyle or already living it, this episode is packed with practical steps and inspiring stories that will help you navigate the transition and enrich your personal and professional life.

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Co-Living and Co-Working in Idyllic Locations

Alex Wilson-Campbell
0:01

Hello
,

good

afternoon
,

good

evening

or

good

morning
,

wherever

you

may

be

in

the

world
.

Today

it's

another

edition

of

the

Remote

Work

Life

Summit
,

and

I

have

a

great

guest

with

me
.

Today

I've

got

the

co-founder

of

Outpost

with

me
.

You

can

find

the

website

at

outpost-asiacom

and

Outpost

Asia
.

Outpost

itself

is

specifically

to

do

with

co-living

and

co-working

neighborhoods

in

really

idyllic

locations
,

and

one

of

those

locations

is

Bali
,

and

today

I

think
,

david
,

you're

talking

to

me

from

Bali
,

am

I

right
?

David Abraham
0:42

I'm

talking

to

you

from

Bali
,

that's

correct
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
0:44

Excellent
,

wonderful

and
,

david
,

I

know

there's

lots

of

people

within

my

community

who

are

looking

to

escape

the

nine

to

five

cubicle
.

They're

looking

to

really

sort

of

connect

and

grow

in

a

different

environment
,

completely

different

environment
,

environment

that's

not

as

hustle

and

bustle
.

Could

you

tell

us

a

bit

more

about

Outpost

please
?

David Abraham
1:13

Sure

Well
,

you're

hitting

on

the

demographic

that

we

really

focus

on
,

and

thank

you

for

inviting

me

to

speak

today
.

What

we

find

is

that
,

or

what

studies

that

two

thirds

of

millennials

feel

stuck

in

either

their

work

or

their

life
.

They

feel

that

there's

something

more

out

there
,

but

they

can't

find

it
.

They

could

be

in

debt

from

going

to

school
.

Social

media

has

made

it

actually

more

difficult

to

truly

connect

with

other

people
,

and

many

of

them

want

to

make

the

world

a

better

place
,

but

they're

stuck

and

if

they

can't

go

out

and

see

the

world
,

how

can

they

make

it

a

better

place
?

So

this

is

really

where

Outpost

comes

in
.

What

we've

done

is

we've

set

up

communities
,

or

neighborhoods

as

we

call

them
,

in

idyllic

locations
.

We

have

two

in

Bali

and

one

in

Cambodia

and

we're

really

focusing

on

giving

people

a

place

to

go

to

find

people

who

are

like

themselves
,

they

want

to

explore
,

they

want

to

grow

personally

and

professionally
,

so

they're

not

seeking

a

vacation

per

se

from

their

life
.

They

want

to

create

a

life

where

there's

opportunity

for

growth

and

betterment

of

the

world

and

there's

that

connection

really

connecting

with

people

who

have

those

same

aspirations
.

David Abraham
2:30

So

Outposts

was

set

up

originally

by

my

partner
,

brian
,

and

I
.

David Abraham
2:34

We

had

both

been

pretty

peripatetic

in

our

careers
,

traveling

from

place

to

place
,

often

living

in

cities
,

and

I

was

in

Tokyo

for

a

while

and

New

York
,

and

those

are

wonderful

places
,

but

realized

there's

a

some

other

places

that

I

wanted

to

spend

some

time

and

he

was

traveling

around

beijing

and

jakarta

and

we

decided

um

to

set

up

in

bali
,

to

set

up

an

office

that

was

for

us
,

and

so

it

was

really

a

place

to

be

productive

and

what

we

saw

over

time

were

the

people

who

were

coming

to

us
.

It

wasn't

just

a

place

that

they

were

looking

for

to

get

work

done
,

it

was

really

a

lifestyle
,

and

so

what

we're

really

focusing

on

is

catering

to

that

lifestyle
.

So

we

offer

from

our

workplace
,

we

offer

living
.

So

we

manage

rooms
.

In

one

of

our

locations

in

Bali
,

we

have

30

rooms
.

In

one

of

our

locations

in

Bali
,

we

have

30

rooms
,

for

example
,

we

also

offer

training
.

So
,

on

life

design
,

we're

also

having

some

writing

courses

and

then

how

to

grow

your

side

hustle
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
3:39

So

there

are

a

number

of

courses

that

we're

trying

to

build

on

to

help

people

live

the

life

that

they

really

want

to

lead
.

Sounds

great
,

sounds

great
.

And

I

I

think
,

when

you
,

when

you

think

of
,

or

when

you're

in

your

office

cubicle
,

I

know

I

used

to

think

that

these

sorts

of

um
,

these

sorts

of

things

were

sort

of

beyond

my

imagination

almost
,

and

you

would

often

see

adverts

and

you

used

to

think

to

yourself

this

is
,

this

is

too

good

to

be

true
,

you

know
.

But

you've

made

it
.

You've

really

made

it

happen

and

you've

really

built

that

up
.

Um
,

you've

built

your

community
,

as

you

said
,

and

you

mentioned

that
,

um
,

social

media

perhaps

has

made

it

more

difficult

to

to

actually

do

that
,

and

I'm

with

you
.

I

mean
,

social

media

has

a

part
,

but

I

think

that

those

in-person

interactions

mean

so

much
,

so

much

more
.

How
?

I

mean
?

Tell

us

about

how

you

see
,

you

know
,

the

key

elements

to

actually

making

those
,

those

initial

connections
.

David Abraham
4:41

We

talk

a

lot

about

shared

experiences
.

So

it's

it's

one

thing
,

for

example
,

to

go

to

a

movie

and

then

you

talk

to

someone

else

who

saw

the

movie

two

or

three

weeks

before

and

you

can

talk

about

the

movie

and

you

can

bond

a

little

bit
.

But

being

able

to

go

through

an

experience

with

someone

else
,

even

if

it

is

just

simply

seeing

a

movie

or

going

through

a

yoga

class

with

someone
,

it's

these

shared

experiences

that

really

foster

connections
.

So

we

try

to

do

is

create

shared

experiences
.

Whether

we're

bringing

donuts

to

at

10

am

to

to

to

our

balcony

so

people

can

can

bond

over

donuts
,

or

whether

it's

a

salsa

lesson

or

whether

it's

a

seo

class
,

we

try

to

create

opportunities

for

a

little

bit

of

of

shared

interactions

so

that
,

over

time
,

that

people

can

build

up

the

connections

that

they

truly

crave
.

David Abraham
5:33

And

I

think

what

we

find

out

is

that

our

members

are

really

our

best

advertising

or

marketing
,

because

what

happens

is
,

like

you

said
,

you

saw

people

living

this

lifestyle

and

you're

like
,

well
,

I

don't
,

really

it's

too

far

out

there
,

but

in

actuality
,

what's

happening

is

that

your

fantasy
,

if

you

will
,

is

our

members

reality
,

and

once

you

see

that

that

reality

could

be

yours
.

Well
,

it's

a

convert

and

really

what

we're

showing

is

that

there

are

other

ways

to

live

for

two

weeks
,

two

months

or

two

years
.

For

me
,

a

traveling

lifestyle

for

longer

than

that

is

too

much
.

For

others
,

they

want

to

make

a

whole

life

of

just

moving

around

from

place

to

place
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
6:17

So

we

want

to

support

that

lifestyle
,

at

least

for

the

time

that

people

want

to

have

that

opportunity

people

want

to

have

that

opportunity

and

how

again

I'm

I'm

actually

these

questions

actually

coming

from

me
,

quite

a

lot

of

from

me
,

but

others

from

the

community

that

I
,

that
,

um
,

that

I

have

as

well
,

the

remote

work

life

community

they

want

to

know
,

you

know
,

if

they're

looking

to
,

you

know
,

look
,

you

know
,

locate

elsewhere
.

Some
,

some

of

them
,

haven't

even

been

on

you

know
,

holidays

for

that

long
.

They

may

have

been

on

holiday

for

a

week
,

so

locating

their

whole

career

and

life

is

like

perhaps

quite

something

that's

again

beyond

what

they've

done

before
.

How

would

you

suggest

you

prepare

for

something

like

this
,

this

whole

movement

of

yourself

and

your

career

to

somewhere

that's

totally

foreign

and

totally

different
?

How

do

you

actually

get

that

going
?

David Abraham
7:08

I

think

there

are

a

multitude

of

ways

and

and

there

are

many

different

people
,

who
,

who
,

who

choose

to

do

this
.

So

when

I

was

younger
,

for

example
,

I

went

to

japan

and

I

taught

english
.

I

had

no

background

in

in

teaching

per

se
,

but

it

was

an

opportunity

to

use

what

skills

that

I

had

and

bringing

them

overseas
.

So

there

are

many

people

who

do

that
.

Now

they

just

leave

where

they're

at
,

they

find

jobs

teaching

English

and

go

from

there
.

There

are

other

people

who

say
,

well
,

I

have

some

skills

in

business
,

let

me

try

drop

shipping
.

So

there

are

people

who

say
,

all

right
,

well
,

let

me

try

drop

shipping

and

figure

out

how

I

can
,

how

I

can
,

sell

a

few

things

online
.

I

think

the

the

more

successful

people

have

some

original

skill

they've
,

they've

have

and

they're

trying

to

take

that

and

do

that

internationally
,

and

so

I

think

that

would

be

my

recommendation
.

David Abraham
8:02

So
,

if

you've

been

working

a

few

years

in

marketing
,

see

what

you

can

break

off

and

have

your

own

clients

that

you're

currently

working

with
.

David Abraham
8:09

Can

you

take

them

with

you
,

and

then

you're

you're

able

to

live

life

more

on

your

own

terms
.

It's

usually

you

get

to

pick

your

location
,

your

career

or

your

role
,

so

you

sacrifice

one

or

the

other

when

you

choose

solely

your

location
.

I

think

there

are

people

who

can

make

it

happen

wherever

they

are
,

but

you're

always

giving

up

something
,

so

there's

always

some

trade

off
.

You

know
,

there's

always

a

little

rain

in

paradise
,

but
,

with

that

said
,

we

think

there's

a

tremendous

amount

of

upside

when

you

can

really

control

the

life

that

you're

trying

to

lead
.

And

I

think

really

what

we

were

talking

about

at

the

beginning

of

the

call

is

a

feeling

that

there's

more

out

there
,

and

I

think

what

people

are

lacking

is

a

sense

of

control
,

and

so

when

people

are

traveling

from

place

to

place

or

with

us

for

a

few

months
,

they

feel

that

they're

controlling

things
,

and

that

sense

of

control

is

often

missing

when

we're

just

doing

the

nine

to

five
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
9:08

No
,

I

hear

that

and

I

think
,

like

you

said
,

there's

lots

of

people

that

are

looking

to

take

control

of

their

lives
,

take

control

of

their

own

trajectory
,

their

own

destination
.

And

I

think

I

suppose

sometimes
,

like

you

said
,

you

have

to

take

if

you've

got

those

skills

or

if

you've

got

some

sort

of

plan

in

place

it's

always

good

to

have

a

plan
,

I

guess
,

isn't
?

It

Is

to

actually

take

those

skills

and

working

within

the

co-living

and

the

co-working

spaces
.

David Abraham
9:54

I

think

people

meet

each

other

and

then

there's

serendipitous

interactions

and

oh
,

you

do

this
,

I

do

this
.

Let's

see

what

we

can

do

together
.

We

can

do

together
.

But

with

that

said
,

there

are

also

certain

things
.

When

you

go

to

another

country
,

you've

got

some

visa

issues

in

terms

of

being

able

to

work

or

not

work

in

a

certain

place
.

So

there

are

really

some

challenges

that

you

might

have

in

necessarily

finding

a

job

within

a

different

country
.

But

I

think

that

you

can

definitely

find

your

way

to

meet

others

and

create

and

collaborate

and

find

job

opportunities

for

sure
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
10:32

So

another

question

that

I

got

asked

is

so

one

of

the

things

that
,

as

somebody

who

works

remotely
,

I

always

look

at
,

one

of

the

first

things

I

look

at

when

I

either

take

a

holiday

or

I'm

going

to

a

new

place
,

I

always

look

at

broadband

first

and

the

connection

to

the

internet
.

But

the

question

is
,

what

other

things

do

you

think

are

imperative

if

you're

sort

of
,

especially

if

you're

moving

from

you

know

your

destination

country

to

a

country

that's

completely

far
?

What

other

things

should

you

look

out

for
,

and

what

other

things

do

you

need

to

have

in

your

toolkit

to

sort

of

make

things

work
?

Would

you

say
,

David

Sure
?

David Abraham
11:15

I

think

the

broadband

one

is

an

interesting

one
.

I

think

that

that

we're

many

of

these

places

getting

beyond

that
.

There

is

the

stability

in

the

internet

in

the

places

that

we

work
.

Work

it's

if

people

don't

think

about

the

electricity
,

but

you

know
,

that's

a
,

that's

a

concern
,

and

I

think

in

the

future

people

are

going

to

give

as

much

thought

to

the

internet

as

they

give

to

the

electricity

now
.

David Abraham
11:38

Um
,

so

I

think

what

you

highlight

is

that

they're
,

they're

they're

headline

concerns

that

people

see
,

you

know

it's

the

internet

there
,

how

is
,

but

but

but

really
,

what

the

concerns

are

is

can

you
,

can

you

meet

other

people
?

Can

you

find

a

place

that

you

feel

at

home

for

for

the

length

of

time

that

you're

there
?

And

I

think

that's

ultimately

the

way

that

we

find

fulfillment

Are

we

able

to

contribute

to

something
?

Is

our

job

meaningful

or

is

is

the

how

we're

living

our

life

of

meaning
?

So

I

think

they're

almost

more

internal

questions

that

people

have

to

ask

but

also

to

see

hey
,

if

I'm

going

here
,

are

there
?

Are

there
?

Are

there
?

Are

there

people

especially

for

those

who

are

first

timers
,

if

you

will

Are

there

people

like

they're

like

me
,

that

I
,

that

I

can

meet
?

David Abraham
12:23

And

then

you

start

to

explore

and

say
,

all

right
,

well
,

I'm

more

interested

in

going

here

or

going

there
.

I

know

these

types

of

people

are

in

Vietnam

and

I

want

to

go
,

I

want

to

head

there
.

So

I

think

that

once

you

get

past

the

all

right
,

can

I

rent

out

my

apartment

in

London

or

San

Francisco
?

And

where

do

I

put
?

Do

I

have

to

put

my

stuff

in

storage
?

Once

you

get

beyond

that
,

it's

these

hidden

things

that

you

don't

think

much

about

hey
,

if

I

go

here
,

will

I

be

lonely
?

You

know

I'm

having

trouble

organizing

my

day

because

there's

so

much

to

do

and

I'm

not

getting

work

done
.

Those

are

the

issues

that
,

on

a

day

to

day
,

that

people

kind

of

are

what

they're

facing

when

they're

really

out

there

day-to-day

that

people

kind

of

um

are

what

they're

facing

when

they're

really

out

there
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
13:11

No
,

I
,

I

hear

that
.

Thank

you
,

david
,

thank

you
.

And

so

another

thing

is

that
,

uh
,

that

feeling

of

I

don't

know
,

working

remotely

or

working

again

as

a

digital

nomad
,

you
,

you

tend

to

be

moving

around

a

lot
.

So

those

relationships
,

those

initial

connections

that

you

make
,

can

sometimes

be

quite

uh
,

it

can

be

quite

a

challenge

to

actually

sort

of

grow

those

connections
,

those

relationships

are

there
.

Are

there

any

tips

that

you

can

give
,

david
,

about
?

You

know
,

because

I

know

you're

very

values

driven

outpost

is

very

value

driven

and

the

people
,

people

that

you

sort

of

um

encourage

into

the

community
,

are

very

values

driven

as

well

and

purpose

driven
.

Are

there

any

bits

of

advice

that

you

can

give

in

terms

of

holding

on

to

those

connections

and

making

them

sort

of

really

sort

of

work

for

the

individual
?

David Abraham
14:01

well

Deepening Connection Through Immersive Travel

David Abraham
14:02

for

me
.

I

we

talk

about

our

values

of

exploration

and

growth

and

connection
,

and

exploration

to

me

isn't

going

out

there

and

being

in

one

place

in

one

week
,

one

place

in

another
.

For

me
,

exploration

is

really

digging

in

and

staying

in

one

spot

for

a

while
,

so

five

months
,

six

months

longer

in

one

location
,

and

that's

where

you

start

to

really

build

those
,

those

connections
,

because

what

you

do

is

you'll
,

you'll

have

these

if

you

go
.

In

my

opinion
,

if

you

move

faster
,

you

have

these

wonderful

experiences

and

you're
,

you're
,

you're

gaining

perspective
.

But

what

you

really

lose

in

that

is

is

is

the

depth

of

experience

with

other

people
,

and

so

my

recommendation

is

to

spend

longer

and

check

less

off

the

bucket

list

and

really

go

deeper
,

learn

a

bit

more

of

the

language

and

you

find

things

to

be

more

rewarding
,

at

least

in

my

opinion
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
15:03

No
,

I

think

that's

really

good

because
,

again
,

when

you

look

on

places

like

YouTube
,

for

example
,

you

see

lots

of

videos

of

people

going

from

one

place

to

another
,

to

another

and
,

like

you

said
,

they're

not

really

sort

of

getting

a

feel

for

their

environment
.

They're

not

making

those
,

like

you

said
,

those

connections
.

They're

not

really

exploring

that

they're
.

They're

perhaps
,

like

you

said
,

ticking

things

off

their

list

and

going

from

place

to

place
.

So

I

think

it's

a

wonderful

piece

of

advice

to

actually

really

embed

yourself

and

sort

of

really

get

a

feel

for

where

you

are

and

like

the

culture
,

the

language
,

and

really

immerse

yourself

in

that
.

So

I

love

that
.

I

love

that
.

David Abraham
15:38

And

as

an

American
,

there

was

a

time

where

people
,

especially

when

I

was

younger
,

they

would

take

three

weeks

off

or

four

weeks

off

and

go

to

Europe
.

And

you'd

hear

people

say
,

well
,

I
,

I

did
,

I

did

rome
,

I

did
,

uh
,

you

know
,

I

did
,

uh
,

I

did

spain
,

I

did

london
,

I
,

I

did

the

czech

republic
,

and

they

were

spending

two

days

in

each

spot

and

they

were

doing

that

and
,

yes
,

it's

wonderful
.

You

can

I

mean

you

can

recall

what

it's

like

to

be

in

prague

and

you

would

recall

what

it

to

be

in

Budapest
.

You've

got

that

image
,

but

you're

just

rushing

through

and

having

a

beer

in

this

place

and

a

beer

in

that

place
,

um
,

and

it's

a

fabulous

experience

that

you

can

recall

that
,

but

really

the

depth

isn't

there
.

And

to

me
,

my

more

rewarding

experiences

were

when

I

was

spending

longer

times

in

places
,

when
,

when

things

happened

to

me
,

like

trains

didn't

show

up

and

I

was

stuck

spending

a

night

in

the

train

station
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
16:32

You

know

those

types

of

experiences

well

not

always

fun

are

the

ones

that

are

most

rewarding

and

help

you

grow
,

and

and

so

you

have

those

more

often

than

not
,

when

you

stay

in

one

place

and

you

experience

it

rather

than

doing

it

now

again
,

I

love

that

because
,

perhaps
,

um
,

the
,

the

generation

before
,

uh
,

you

know
,

the

zennial

generation
,

as

far

as

you

could

say

that
,

where

you

had

the
,

um
,

the

holiday

experiences
,

we

literally

fly

you

in

sort

of

experience

it
,

like

you

said
,

experience

it

and

then

take

your

pictures

and

come

back
.

But

now

I

think
,

um
,

lots

of

millennials
,

who

may

be

listening

to

this
,

they

want

a

lot

more
,

don't

they
?

They

want

to

um
,

get

a

fit
,

get

more

of

a

feel

and

more

of

a
.

They

want

to

feel

part

of

it
,

and

I

think

that's

the

best

way

to

go

about

it
,

and

I

think
,

um
,

I

think

outpost

is

a

great

way
,

is

a

great

way

to

actually

enable

them

to

to

do

that
,

and

I

think

that

I

mean

that

leads

quite

nicely

onto

your
,

onto

your

um
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
17:28

You

mentioned

your

values

are

connect
,

explore

and

grow
.

We've

covered

the

first

two
.

I

think

that

does

enable

you

to

grow
,

doesn't

it
?

Because

if

you're

experiencing

new

things
,

experiencing

new

cultures

even

that

thing

where

you

mentioned

about

the

train

and

all

that

sort

of

thing

that

in

itself

may

seem

like

a

bad

experience

at

the

time
,

but

you're

growing
,

you're

learning

from

that
.

Right
,

may

seem

like

a

bad

experience

at

the

time
,

but

you're

growing
,

you're

learning

from

that

right

um
.

So
,

in

terms

of

that

growth

aspect
,

what

other

areas

you

know
?

How

else

do

you

feel

that

that

growth

can

be

achieved

as

well
?

Growth and Community in Global Co-Living

David Abraham
17:59

david

sure

well
,

then
,

at

outpost

we

have

the

personal

growth

and

the

professional

growth
,

and

we

and

we

have

um

events
,

um
,

so

that

so

that

was

speaking

about

earlier

whether

it's

styles

of

dancing

or

marketing

or

branding
.

So

we

have

a

number

of

different

events

where

you

can

grow

professionally

if

you

will
,

and

then

other

ones

where

there's

personal

growth
.

We

also

have

courses
.

So

we

have

something

we

call

Code

Remote
,

where

people

come

in

for

seven

weeks

and

learn

Python

and

it's

fabulous

to

see

that

someone

has

come

in

with

no

experience

and

at

the

end

they

had

an

Airbnb

clone
.

So

there's

tremendous

growth

there
.

David Abraham
18:42

And

then
,

after

learning

how

to

code
,

you're

in

the

Outpost

network

and

there

are

always

people

who

are

going

to

need

those

skills
.

So

it's

almost

an

entree

point
,

or

it

is

an

entree

point

into

the

community

and

into

the

lifestyle
.

So

that's

something

that

we

offer
.

And

there

are

other

classes
,

like

I

had

mentioned
,

on

writing

and

finding

meaning

to

you

in

a

lifestyle
,

called

our

Life

Design

Lab
.

So

we

offer

those

courses

as

well
.

So

that's

the

the

more

formal

learning

and

the

informal

learning

that

you

had

mentioned

as

well
.

You

know
,

I'm

I'm

in

indonesia

and

watching

how

people

live

and

work

and

and

I'm

in

uh

nam

pen
,

cambodia
,

and

seeing

the

frenetic

pace

and

how

people

are

are

are

are

making

their

lives

here
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
19:29

Again
,

great
.

That's
.

Another

key

thing

I

always

try

to

put

across

is

you

know
,

as

well

as

the

cultural

aspects

in

terms

of

your

growth
,

there's

also

the
,

as

you

mentioned
,

the

hard

skills
,

because

the

world

is

moving

so

quickly

and

you

know

as

much

as

it's

good

to

have

a

good

skill

set
,

say
,

for

example
,

in

marketing
,

if

you

can

learn

something

like

SEO

or

writing

or
,

like

David

says
,

even

coding

web

designers

or

SEOs

or

writers

so

having

that

additional

skill

set

is

going

to

make

you

a

much

more

valuable

proposition

to

your

clients

or

to

whoever

you

may

be

working

for
.

So

those

soft

skills
,

as

well

as

the

hard

skills
,

are

just

really

imperative

for

your

growth
,

your

personal

and

professional

growth
.

David Abraham
20:28

It's

exactly
.

It's

exactly

that

we
.

What

I

found

in

throughout

my

career

and

we

find

now

is

that

if

you

can

speak

the

language

and

so

if

you
,

if

you

learn

coding

and

you're

not

a

coder

you

understand

the

language
.

So

you

can

be

that

person

between

the

CEO

and

that

and

and

the

text

and

the

tech

team

there

there

are

many
.

If

you

know

marketing

and

you

know

the

language

and

the

words

team

there

are

many
.

If

you

know

marketing

and

you

know

the

language

and

the

words

that

people

use
,

you

can

translate

that

for

the

business

folks
.

There's

so

much

that

you

can

do

by

just

learning

how

people

speak

and

just

learning

the

basics

that

you

can

really

find

your

career

being

propelled

in

many

different

directions
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
21:08

I

think

so
,

and

it's

like

you

said
,

david
,

I

think
,

because

maybe

people

have

in

their

mind

that
,

you

know
,

I

only

learn

code

if

I

want

to

be

a

coder
.

That's

just

not

the

case
,

I

think
.

Even

you

know

the

actions

or

the

interactions

that

you

have

with

people
,

or

the

understanding

of

those

different

skill

sets
,

is

just

going

to

take

you

so

much

further
.

But

on

top

of

that
,

though
,

the

growth

aspect

in

terms

of
,

you

know
,

developing

your

own

community
.

You

start

off

with

one

or

two

people
,

and

that

one

person

may

introduce

you

to

another
,

to

another
,

another
.

You

never

know

where

that

that

person

who

you

meet

um

may

be
.

In

one

or

two

years

time
.

They

may

be

CEO

of

their

own

company
,

right
,

um
?

And

then

that

connection

that

you've

made
,

well
,

that

exploring

that

you've

done
,

um
,

that

community

that

you've

built

up
,

is

again

contributing

to

your

own
,

to

your

own

growth
,

isn't

it
,

david
?

David Abraham
22:09

Right
,

and

that's

the

wonderful

thing

about

Outposts
.

So

if

you're

in

London
,

you're
,

if

you

will
,

restricted

by

the

people

who

are

around

you
,

and

London

is

a

tremendously

international

city
,

so

there's

wonderful

people

to

meet

all

of

the

time
,

but

it

doesn't

compare

to

an

Outposts
,

because

you'll

be

sitting

next

to

someone

from

Brazil
,

someone

from

the

UK
,

someone

from

Australia
,

someone

from

Indonesia

and

you

see
,

and

you're

working

on

your

businesses

and

your

ideas

in

very

different

ways
,

and

so

that

there

are

so

many

people

around

there

to

meet

and

you've

got

wonderful

opportunities

to

maintain

those

connections
.

Boy
,

it's

hard

to

maintain

oh
,

yes
,

yeah
,

people

for

sure
,

those

connections
,

boy
,

it's

hard

to

maintain

connections

with

50

people
,

for

sure
,

but

the

opportunity

is

there
.

So

that's

really

what

we

think

is

a

fantastic

experience

when

people

come

through

Outposts

is

just

that

there

is

that

diversity

of

people

from

almost

everywhere
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
23:05

Yeah
,

it's

a

skill

in

itself
,

isn't

it
,

david
?

Maintaining

connections
,

because

you

want

to

sort

of

send

somebody

an

email
,

but

you

don't

want

to

do

it

too

regularly
,

or

you

want

to

make

a

phone

call
,

but

when

is

the

right

time

to

do

that
?

So

I

think

it's

so

undervalued
,

these

sort

of

face-to-face

interactions
,

how
,

if

you

can

build

those

up
,

it

can

really

make

it

much

easier

to

sort

of

maintain

them

down

the

line
,

right
?

David Abraham
23:30

Right
,

right
.

Well
,

it's

how

we've

you

know
,

as

humans
,

how

we've

always

had

connections
.

It's

been

physical
,

it's

been
,

you

know
,

it's

been

right

there

in

front

of

you
.

So

the

fact

that

we

have

these

opportunities

to

Skype
,

call

and

breathe

as

present

as

we

can

with

the

computer
,

it's

still

obviously

not

the

same

as

the

physical

presence
.

And

being

able

to

hang

out

in

the

evening

on

the

beach

with

people

all

over

the

world

and

talking

about

the

life

you

want

to

lead
,

or

whether

you

sit

back

and

talk

about

your

business

ideas
.

To

have

that

opportunity

and

have

the

sounding

board

of

people

from

many

different

places

is

really

what

the

Outpost

experience

is

about
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
24:15

Yeah
,

and

I

know

we've

got

a

limited

amount

of

time
,

david
,

but

what

I

want

to

just

say
,

as

well

as

those

connections
,

that

ability

to

make

connections
,

what

are

the

traits

or

what

are

the

aspects

of

somebody

working

remotely

or

as

digital

nomad
,

somebody

sitting

here

today

thinking

to

themselves

actually

this
,

this

lifestyle
,

is

for

me
.

What

other

traits

do

you

feel

are

important

for

you

to

actually

survive

and

to

actually

really

make

this

sort

of

lifestyle

work

for

yourself
?

David Abraham
24:45

is

to

really

have

a

good

sense

of

direction

and

plans

on

where

you

want

to

be

and

how

you

want

to

grow

and

then
,

at

the

same

time
,

realize

that

once

you

put

that

sale

up
,

your

direction

might

go

in

a

different

way
.

But

then

reset

those

plans
.

You

know
,

have

an

idea

of

where

you

want

to

go

and

how

you

want

to

get

there
.

You

want

to

get

there

and

then

be

crafty

enough

or

agile

enough

to

know

that

sometimes

there's

a
,

there's

a

flow

that

you

caught

in

and

it's

going

to

bring

you

in

a

different

direction
.

David Abraham
25:15

um
,

so

I

I

think

those

the
,

the

ability

to

plan

and

and

look

forward

and

change

is

is

really
,

uh
,

is

critical

but

you

can't

just

say

I'm

gonna

go

out

there

and

I'll

figure

it

out
,

because

to

me

that

that's

not

always

setting

yourself

up

for

the

best

chance

of

success
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
25:35

No
,

I

agree
,

I

agree

100%
.

And

as

far

as

Outpost
,

what's

the

future

looking

like

for

Outpost
?

And

do

you

have

any

more

locations

planned

at

all
?

Sure

will

we
.

David Abraham
25:49

It's

really

wonderful

to

see

where

our

members

are

going
.

They're

coming

from

one

of

our

locations

on

the

beach

in

Bali

to

in

the

mountains
,

to

our

location

in

Cambodia
.

We

just

like

to

be

able

to

serve

our

members

wherever

they're

traveling
.

We

think

being

able

to

set

up

that

network

provides

people

the

shared

experiences

not

just

in

Bali

but

elsewhere
.

So

we're

really

excited

about

the

future

and

creating

a

community

of

many

neighborhoods
,

if

you

will
.

So

we're

excited

about

the

future
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
26:26

Excellent
,

and

I

know

I

mentioned

url

at

the

top

of

the

the

call
.

Is

there

somewhere

other

than

that

url

that

people

should

look

if

they're

interested

in
,

you

know
,

setting

up

an

outpost
?

David Abraham
26:39

I

think
,

I

think

the

websites

are
,

you

know
,

outpost
.

Asiacom

is

the

best

place

to

start

to

learn

about

our

living

and

and

working

environments
,

as

well

as

training
.

Um
,

you

could

google

and

see

and

see

the

news

articles

about

us
.

Um
,

there's

some
,

you

know
,

wonderful

news

and

videos

of

people

who've

come

through

here
.

Um
,

so

we're
,

you

know
,

we're

excited

to

to

see

more

people

come

through

it
,

adopt

the

lifestyle
.

Embracing Remote Work Lifestyle Opportunities

David Abraham
27:03

Like

I

said
,

the
,

the

challenge

when

you're

sitting

there

in

your

office

feels

like
,

how

do

you

get

out

of

the

lifestyle
?

Yeah
,

uh
,

for

sure

it

feels

that

way
,

um
,

but

it's
,

it's

easier

if

you

just

say
,

hey
,

I'm

ready

to

do

it
.

Um
,

I
,

I

think
,

once

you

find

a

place

for

your

stuff

or

once

you

rent

out

your

place
,

everything

else

is

easy

and

just

commit

to

it
.

Just

commit

to

it
,

realize

it's

going

to

be

this

amount

of

time

and

yeah
,

and

so

what

happens

is

some

people

come

out

and

they're

with

us

for

two

months

or

two

and

a

half

months
,

and

they

had

an

idea

and

they

couldn't

get

it

started

or

they

couldn't

get

the

business

plan
,

or

the

business

plan

didn't

work

and
,

you

know
,

worst

thing

that

happened

was

they

were

with

us

for

two

and

a

half

months

had

an

amazing

time
.

Um
,

they
,

they

learned
,

they

had

a

vacation
,

they

met

fabulous

people

and

they

go

home
,

um
,

so

let

that

be

the

worst

thing

doesn't

sound

too

bad

to

me

at

all
,

david
,

thank

you
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
28:01

I

just

want

to

say

thank

you

so

much

for

for

joining

us

here

today

at

remote

work

life

summit
.

We'll

be

looking

out

for

what's

going

on

at

outpost

hyphen
,

asiacom

and

um
.

Hopefully

I

get

to

speak

to

you

again

soon

in

the

future

to

to

catch

up

hopefully

get

to

see

you

out

here

soon
.

David Abraham
28:18

Yeah
,

and

that

as

well
,

yeah

you've

got

a

spot
.

Alex Wilson-Campbell
28:21

Oh
,

brilliant
,

thanks
,

david

thanks
.